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those long maps with times over 4 minutes
  dagugstdu
those long maps with times over 4 minutes10:36 AM 26-Apr-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Do we really need them on playpal? What is the point to upload them here? To stay over weeks in top20, bcz only a few people will drive them? And then the bad signed maps too - driving in like a maze ....

Imho playpal maps should be limited to 2 minutes goldmedal at maxtime!

There is no fun to drive those long tracks to finish them and also no fun to get a better time if you ever had the luck to find the finish.
Those long tracks only trashing the top20 over weeks, because it will need ages till there are 10 replays on!

vote 4 max 2 minutes maps!!!
Last edited 26-Apr-2010 by   dagugstdu
  Redrot»LT
4:00 PM 26-Apr-10 : Quote : Report : #
Total TMX Nutter!



lets say 3 minutes, but I agree.
  shaund
6:27 AM 05-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



I also did not enjoy that particular 4 min track (I am sure we all know which one you are talking about) but then you do sometimes, and I mean sometimes, find an awesome long track. I just think this particular track specially a tech track should not be that long...

My suggestion is play it post a time and get it off the top and if you don’t like it don’t award it...

Just my opinion...
  Frx ben75
4:17 PM 06-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



Personally, I have nothing against long tracks. I do not see why they would ban people from making long tracks. If you do not like long tracks, don't play it!
  dagugstdu
8:23 AM 07-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Originally posted by Frx ben75 ...
Personally, I have nothing against long tracks. I do not see why they would ban people from making long tracks. If you do not like long tracks, don't play it!


They block places in top20 - look at "|MTC| Smash & Blast" >> its long on place 1 - bcz only 8 reps - and then if it reaches 10 - also not all replays have " reasonable time" - you see it in special on that horrortracks "MTC »The Decline" with over 15 minutes too. Do you really want to drive those tracks more then 1 times to get a better replay time?????!!!!! Atm there are 3 tracks over 4 minutes at top20.

If now too many of those long tracks at top20 pp, then we get not that many new maps and my ambitions to look at paypal is gone....
  Frx ben75
5:43 PM 07-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



I don't know what is your problem with long tracks. Nobody force you to try it! Besides, there are often only 1 or 2 long tracks. In my opinion, it is not really important. I don't see any interest to create a topic for it.

JUST DON'T PLAY IT!!!
  Tuta
6:09 PM 07-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Beyond Help!



Originally posted by Frx ben75 ...
I don't know what is your problem with long tracks. Nobody force you to try it! Besides, there are often only 1 or 2 long tracks. In my opinion, it is not really important. I don't see any interest to create a topic for it.

JUST DON'T PLAY IT!!!

Please look at the forum you're in and then read what Playpal is about before you make another post -.-
  Frx ben75
12:55 PM 08-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



Sorry, I don't understand what you mean! Google translator sometimes sucks.
  Sammon
11:09 PM 08-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
I'm fluffy.
Moderator



Originally posted by MrA ...
The result is that more people play and give you feedbacks on your tracks!

Notice it says nothing about length...
  Frx ben75
9:54 AM 09-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



+1
For me, it's just a fake debate!
  dagugstdu
7:47 AM 10-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Originally posted by Frx ben75 ...
+1
For me, it's just a fake debate!


If you have nothing to say - go away and dont "spam" here....

back to topic:
scenario >>> worst case >>
20 tracks all over 4 minutes ...

It will be need ages to get "10 reasonable replays" - only then tracks will be excluded automaticly from paypal - and in this case play pal would be dead, because there would be no mapchange over weeks...


[sarcasm on]
but hey, no one forces you to play long tracks...
but hey, no one forces you to play pay pal tracks
[sarcasm off]

I opened that discussion as we had 4 long tracks at pp but >>I had the feeling that there is no much mapchange because of those long tracks... thats why i asked for a track time limit and your opinions of it. But if you all feel fine with it then it is only my problem...but if not.....>>....
  Tuta
2:51 PM 10-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Beyond Help!



Originally posted by sammon|end ...

Notice it says nothing about length...

So what?

Is it not ok to complain on the rules if you dont like them? I think dagugstdu has a very good point because these long tracks can really kill playpal.
  Redrot»LT
1:32 AM 11-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Total TMX Nutter!



Any mod input?
  FT»eyebo
7:14 AM 11-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Management



As long as the map isn't lunatic difficulty, I don't see the problem... everyone can drive a 4-20min map and upload a time...

Once the track has 10 replays it gets removed from PlayPal.

So just go drive it, post a time, and it'll be gone before you know it.

Instead of complaining about long tracks, you should be driving them and posting times, and hastening their timely banishment from PlayPal due to their overload of replays.

And don't forget to give the author some feedback with your replay. Everyone appreciates that.
  dagugstdu
8:26 AM 11-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Originally posted by eyebo ...
...
Once the track has 10 replays it gets removed from PlayPal.
....



not 100% right - rules say "10x reasonable time on a track" - means something around gold and authortime -> and that can be need ages by those long maps, wg "MTC »The Decline" has over days/weeks 10 replays and still on pp.

But i figured out that there was a MTC with "build a track over 4 minutes" in the past (OMG) and i think thats why we have atm here so many long tracks. Still 3 long tracks staying alive at pp.

We will see how many long tracks coming up in future.
  Sangelos
7:14 PM 12-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Yeah it's really annoying to have these long tracks here in pp
It's really hard to get a good time on them, espacially if you can't good drive the envi
there should be a changing of the rules, maybe after three weeks it's automatically excluded or something like that..
  FT»eyebo
10:12 PM 12-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Management



Ah, I didn't know that dagugstdu.

Yes, the Mar-Apr 2010 MTC this year is tracks over three minutes long.
I guess I find it slightly hard to feel sorry for you lot having to drive one good time on these endurance maps when I'm judging all 40 of them and having to try to get Gold on all of them.

Taking a quick look at the list right now... seeing mtc maps and long maps...

o flo's map "smash and blast" (4:00) at the top of PlayPal right now was disqualified from the mtc because it was posted to tmnf tmx in January...

o yukon's 15min coast monster "the decline" is in the mar-apr mtc.

o outcry (48secs) from smartyyy is from the dec mtc which was threeuse

o reblocked (1:32) from sivert from the may mtc which is 6block combo built 4 times

o O_o (54secs) by accel was made for the apr '09 blockmixing mtc

o Ride High, Fall Low by Sefa is unnassociated with any mtc... but it looks like another track based on the nadeo poster from tmo... I'm actually looking forward to trying it. Hopefully it's not just a knockoff of someone elses version. There have been others who have made it... I've only driven the famous one from Jey Bee.

To be honest, I think long tracks should be allowed in PlayPal.
PlayPal is an offline service... where you have as much time as you need to drive the track.
We can't load these tracks into PlayPal Online. PlayPal is one of the few ways these authors get to promote their tracks.

I understand the frustration though if a track has 10 replays... you do a run... you're not fast enough... you can't post a time and get any karma... and the track seems to hoard all the karma.

Maybe the coders have a solution to alleviate this. Seems like a special condition could be made for tracks over 3mins long to be removed immediately after they reach 10 replays... or maybe relax how close you have to be to the author time for the track to be seen as well competed on.

Edit: I uploaded my top5 time on Smash & Blast... which was relatively close to AT (within a few seconds). It was the 10th replay uploaded... the track has now disappeared from PlayPal. I assume it was excluded.
Last edited 13-May-2010 by   FT»eyebo
  Frx ben75
5:33 PM 20-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



Originally posted by dagugstdu ...


If you have nothing to say - go away and dont "spam" here....



My comment is not more useless than your topic. Nobody force you to play long tracks in PlayPal!

@TMX moderators: Can you close this topic, please?
Last edited 20-May-2010 by   Frx ben75
  dagugstdu
6:45 AM 21-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Toy-Car Racer



Originally posted by Frx ben75 ...


My comment is not more useless than your topic. Nobody force you to play long tracks in PlayPal!

@TMX moderators: Can you close this topic, please?


@TMX moderators: Can you stop spaming this boy here? - oh i forgot tmx is populated 80% by kids....


cya kids - have fun alone
  Frx ben75
6:17 PM 22-May-10 : Quote : Report : #
Coupè Racer



Can you stop to post stupid comments please? You say I spam because I don't have the same point of view.
Last edited 22-May-2010 by   Frx ben75
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